The moral dangers of dirty work

May 5, 2022

Eyal Press, an author and journalist known for his work on essential yet overlooked jobs, joins the discussion on the moral complexities of 'dirty work.' They delve into examples like drone pilots and meatpackers, shedding light on how these roles reveal societal inequalities related to class, race, and gender. The conversation explores the psychological toll on workers who face ethical dilemmas in oppressive environments, as well as the societal detachment from the consequences of this labor. Press emphasizes the importance of recognizing and valuing all forms of work.

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Defining Dirty Work

"Dirty work" isn't just unpleasant tasks.
It involves morally troubling actions society condones but ignores.

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Inequality and Responsibility

Inequality dictates who performs dirty work and who bears responsibility.
Lower-ranking individuals often take the blame for systemic issues.

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Drone Strikes and Disengagement

Drone strikes exemplify how dirty work benefits a disengaged public.
The public avoids confronting the moral costs of these hidden actions.

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Vox’s Jamil Smith talks with journalist and author Eyal Press about "dirty work" — the jobs Americans do that, as Press explains, can lead workers to perform morally compromising activities unwittingly. They discuss examples of this kind of work (drone pilots, meat packers, prison aides), talk about its relation to the term "essential workers" that gained prominence during the pandemic, and explain how certain jobs highlight the disparities of class, race, and gender in American society.

Host: Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith), Senior Correspondent, Vox

Guest: Eyal Press (@EyalPress), author; journalist

References:

Dirty Work: Essential Jobs and the Hidden Toll of Inequality in America by Eyal Press (FSG; 2021)
"What does it mean to take America's 'jobs of last resort'?" by Jamil Smith (Vox; Apr. 22)
Empire of Pain: The Secret History of the Sackler Dynasty by Patrick Radden Keefe (Doubleday; 2021)
The Social Network, dir. David Fincher (2010)
The Jungle by Upton Sinclair (1906)
The Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison (1952)
The Civilizing Process by Norbert Elias (1939)
"Good People and Dirty Work" by Everett C. Hughes (Social Problems, vol. 10 (1); 1962)
The Line Becomes a River by Francisco Cantú (Riverhead; 2019)
"Inside the Massive Jail that Doubles as Chicago's Largest Mental Health Facility" by Lili Holzer-Glier (Vera Institute of Justice; 2016)

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