How do you navigate a founding CTO's transition when they're struggling to scale? Kelli and Nolan share hard-won wisdom on avoiding common pitfalls: don't rush to judgment, build trust first, and respect the deep bonds between founders. Instead of plotting replacements, focus on supporting growth - and remember that even the best transitions happen through relationships, not force.
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(01:52) Avoid Premature Judgments
(04:43) Nuance and Relationship Building
(07:43) Sponsor Message: Metaview
(08:55) Further Discussion: Investing in Existing Leadership
(11:25) Additional Insights: Truth and Trust
(13:02) The Risk of Premature Action
(14:23) Summary and Emotional Dynamics
(14:46) Board Involvement and Conclusion
(15:37) Wrap
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