Reskillience

Cycles of Renewal with David Holmgren

Feb 11, 2024

David Holmgren, co-originator of Permaculture, discusses integrating rather than segregating, land sharing, housing alternatives, edges, value of the marginal, personal growth, financial stability, non-monetary exchanges, indigenous connections, power dynamics in intentional communities, wealth perspectives, energy descent, and positive/negative influences within systems.

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Integrating natural soundscapes into audio recordings creates a richer listening experience embracing chaos and atmosphere.

Thriving in social and cultural edge zones challenges mainstream norms, advocating for diversity and alternative perspectives.

Reimagining land ownership through sharing land and non-monetary relationships fosters autonomy and control while moving away from financialization.

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Embracing Natural Soundscapes

The podcast episode discusses the importance of integrating natural soundscapes into audio recordings rather than aiming for complete sterility. It challenges the obsession with eliminating background noise completely and advocates for embracing the chaos and atmosphere provided by the natural world. By incorporating sounds like buzzing flies, dueling roosters, and the environment's real noises, a richer and more integrated listening experience can be created, acknowledging our entanglement with the living world.

Balancing Accommodation Expansion with Community Sustainability

01:22

Land Tenure Flexibility

01:19

Permaculture and the Recognition of Tasmanian Indigenous People

01:13

Balancing reciprocity and consumerism in caring for people

01:28

Introduction

4min

Exploring the Edges: From Wild Landscapes to Social Fringes

8min

Navigating Social Dynamics and Personal Growth

12min

Embracing Sustainable Practices and Facing Challenges

15min

Exploring the Complexity of Land Ownership and Financial Stability

15min

Exploring Non-Monetary Exchange and Community Support

17min

Reflections on Indigenous Connections and Historical Recognition

2min

Reflections on Ideological Evolution and Personal Responsibility

2min

Navigating Power Dynamics in Intentional Communities

19min

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Exploring Perspectives on Wealth and Abundance

3min

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Exploring Energy Descent and Transitioning Mindsets

6min

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Exploring the Dynamics of Influence within Systems and Power Structures

2min

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Permaculture Resources, Events, and Future Guests

2min

David Holmgren is the co-originator of Permaculture, self-aware contrarian and contemplator of everything.

I’m lucky enough to be part of his extended household, so rather than shooting the breeze about the state of the world while sowing parsnips I figured I better bloody well get him on the podcast.

We dig into David’s own internal landscape as well as the contours of his life at Melliodora, and I was especially eager to quiz him about land sharing and housing alternatives; prime listening for those in the debt-avoidant club.

Listen out for our new Reskillience segment: Word Association – which sees me peppering David with all kinds of words and phrases to see what he’ll volley back. Such fun. And David said it’s unlike any interview he’s done before, which I’m taking as a good thing.

Maya Ward

Permaculture principle #8 – Integrate rather than segregate

Bill Mollison

Edges talk given by David in Lisbon

Permaculture principle #11 – Use edges and value the marginal

David Holmgren’s collected essays

Essay ~ Pandemic brooding

Essay ~ Crash on Demand

Essay ~ The Apology

Book ~ The Golden Calm by M.M. Kaye

Melliodora property

EcoBurbia