Reskillience
Reskillience is a podcast about the hard, soft and surprising skills that'll help us stay afloat if our modern systems don't. Hosted by Catie Payne, released weekly.
Latest episodes

Jun 22, 2025 • 1h 4min
End of Life Matters with Pippa White
Shrug off the cloak of secrecy and awkwardness around death with palliative care nurse Pippa White. I’ve been wanting to bring a death convo to the airwaves for ages, because there’s a huge imbalance between light/dark, above/below, waxing/waning, growth/decay, possessing/relinquishing energies in our culture (and I'm the first person to perpetuate it). Shout out to everyone who sent frank and thoughtful questions for Pippa to answer – you’ll hear them towards the end of the ep.Pippa White is a palliative care nurse and death care advocate and educator in the Anthroposophical tradition. We discuss:🖤 What is Anthroposophic philosophy?🖤 Death care rituals, balms and vigils🖤 Windows into the reality of spirit from people in transition🖤 Why to “do the work” at the eleventh hour🖤 Soothing suffering without drugs🖤 How painful is death?🖤 Different ways to relate to pain🖤 Small, slow solutions to dying (tiny local end of life retreats)🖤 Pet euthanasia, yay or nay?🖤 How to deal with loved ones in denial?🖤 Can you make a living in end of life care?🖤 How do you document/cherish a life?🖤 What folks find difficult when dying?🖤 Grieving to breathe and to love🖤 Birth and death thresholdsLINKY POOS 🧙♀️Pippa WhiteAnthroposophical Society AustraliaWhat is Advance Care Planning?Wedgetail RetreatMartín PrechtelStephen Jenkinson[poem] Do Not Go Gentle into That Good Night by Dylan Thomas🧡🧡🧡 Show Reskillience some love on Patreon 🧡🧡🧡

Jun 8, 2025 • 59min
Growing Against the Odds with Katie Finlay
Do not listen to this unless you want to reawaken your dormant farming desires and throw yourself into a life on the land. I tell a story about being a grub, before having an animated chat with rural woman of the year Katie Finlay about staunching the loss of small farms in Australia and supporting emerging growers to step up – even and especially if they don’t own land. (What even is land ownership?) 🍎 AND ALSOKatie and Hugh Finlay are black belt orchardists whose online program Grow Great Fruit is just brilliant for anyone who wants to obtain a yield from fruit trees (with an organic and holistic tilt, of course). It gives me great joy to connect you with their work.This is their Dream Orchard Masterclass starting REAL SOON on June 12.🧙♀️LINKY POOSGrow Great FruitHarcourt Organic Farming CoopAustralian Food Sovereignty Alliance (AFSA) Tess Sellar ~ Sellar Dairy 🧡Support Reskillience on Patreon 🧡

May 25, 2025 • 1h 14min
Finding God in the Compost Pile with Gareth Devenish
It’s colder than a penguin’s big toe here in Djaara Country, so we’re cosying up by the fire for a yarn with Gareth Devenish. I call Gareth the Snoop Dogg of permaculture, he calls himself a sovereign man walking in Country, subject to natural lore, seeking a connection with the cosmos. Call off your obligations for the next hour because Gareth’s crackling mix of irreverence and truth telling is something really special.🔥 How to yarn🔥 Why land ownership is a furphy🔥 Native vs. exotic trees and colonial malaise🔥 What is our responsibility to Country?🔥 Nomadic agriculture🔥 Quantum physics, free will and a post-truth era🔥 Useful jobs in the time of AI🔥 Why peacemaking with first nations people should be our #1 priority🔥 Pay the rent!🔥 Finding god in the compost heap🔥 Does consciousness even exist?🔥 Tips for planting and growing healthy trees🔥 The best way to learn new skills🔥 The scars which make us beautiful🧙♀️ LINKY POOSGareth’s tree nursery ~ The Farm Tree Nursery (ships around Aus!)Gareth’s email ~ garethdevenish@gmail.com🧡 Support Reskillience on Patreon (plz don’t use the app it takes a fee, go desktop) 🧡

May 11, 2025 • 1h 6min
Quit Your Job & Work in Reciprocity with Linda Cockburn
I tell a story about making bugger all money but feeling filthy rich, before being joined by the incredible Linda Cockburn (pronounced “Co’burn” cos it’s Scottish) who explains why Capitalism is a death cult, and ways to crowd it out with reciprocity. Ample brain fodder and fiery inspiration here, folks! We cover:🪶 Being unmade by successive tragedies.🪶 Quitting employment to work in the home economy.🪶 Going six months without spending a dollar.🪶 How to grow your own toilet paper!🪶 Will politicians ever “solve” climate change?🪶 Why you can’t question capitalism🪶 How the growth imperative works🪶 Changing the narrative through language🪶 The debt treadmill for “developing” nations🪶 The closest thing we’ve had to utopia in human history!🪶 Old and new indigeneity through storytelling🪶 Hitting bodily limits🪶 How to get owwwfff the hamster wheel🪶 Riches without an income🪶 The Eudaimonia Index & Reciprocity🪶 Black Soldier Fly Revolution!🪶 How to share even when you’re a scoundrel only child like me🪶 Why it feels great to give your best stuff away🧙♀️ LINKY POOSLinda’s booksThe Quiet Revolution (basically why & how to decouple from the death cult of capitalism & start giving back to all life)Eat My Shadow (hopeful and instructive collapse fiction!)Living the Good LifeLinda’s articles in Organic Gardener magazineA kickass essay by Linda ~ My Planet Saving SuperpowersLinda on InstagramThe Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight by Thom HartmannSeed Freaks ~ open pollinated seeds TasmaniaDavid Holmgren’s RetroSuburbia: The Downshifter’s Guide to a Resilient FutureSound credit: Bruny Island Ambience by guyburns License: Attribution 4.0🧡🧡🧡 support Reskillience on Patreon (plz don’t use the app it takes a fee, go desktop) 🧡🧡🧡

Apr 27, 2025 • 1h
Loving What's Left with Tessa Campisi
Hello! I have been away in the bush for three days and three nights with just a tarp, sleeping bag and water to my name. No tent, no pillow, no torch, NO BREAKFAST. Off the back of this deeply moving ritual (which I'll tell you about soon), I wanted to release this equally as moving and foresty interview with Tessa Campisi.Tessa is a writer, poet, audio visual artist, activist and radio host who speaks with the timbre of an old growth tree and tells stories that will rustle your leaves. In this chat:🌳 What it's like to live through a catastrophic flood🌳 How anarchic networks can rise to meet a crisis, fast🌳 What happens when forest conservationists are at loggerheads with traditional owners?🌳 Strawman vs. steelman arguments🌳 A new approach to deep listening to those you disagree with 🌳 What traditional activism gets wrong and how to be a more effective change agent 🌳 How and why to love the scraps of our beautiful, broken world🧙♀️ LINKY POOS Tessa's home on the webTessa's (online) exhibition ~ Framings of Wombat ForestArticle of interest ~ Reflections on forest gardening by Cam Walker https://www.melbournefoe.org.au/galk_galk_dhelkunyaPaper of interest ~ History of Environmentalist-Indigenous alliances and conflictsEssay of interest ~ The Trouble with Wilderness by William Cronon*** Become a Reskillience supporter on Patreon!***

Apr 13, 2025 • 1h 9min
Permaculture on the Spectrum with Anna Matilda
Me ranting about Couple Power and the Urban Nanna being brilliant. May all the single, neurospicy permies find ample inspiration in today’s interview with Anna Matilda! Teacher of traditional skills, crafts and non-judgey sustainability. Anna is a breath of fresh air in the stale bedchamber of the status quo, sharing openly about how she does permaculture solo, in the city, in a rental property, with limited energy and Captain Anxiety occasionally taking the wheel.Mistakes as teachersOut ya come, Captain AnxietyFeeling out of step with the whole worldThe stress and physical fallout of maskingPersonal energy that can be budgetedThe Fuck It WaveFYI: You don’t need a compost toilet or a goatGuide Beside learning (Nanna education)Is permaculture uniquely attractive to people on the spectrum?For the single women renters!Spoon TheoryBuilding community with a capital CGiving and receivingBanking energy and goodwill in people, in communityCommunity as forestSkills as securityMudhuts TheoryRevelling in knowing nothingCan we change?Swedish wisdom ~ lagom & mysigJapanese wisdom ~ kintsugi & shishiko embroidery🧙♀️ LINKY POOSAnna’s new book is out now! Everyday Permaculture ~ Anna MatildaThe Urban Nanna’s on the interwebsThe Urban Nanna on Instagram⭐ Reskillience on Patreon ⭐

Mar 30, 2025 • 1h 10min
How To Grow Crazy Resilient Vegetables with Gregg Mueller
Today we're exploding the sanctity of heirloom seeds and exploring the world of adaptive gardening! Gregg Mueller is here to tell us how (and why) to breed wacky new varieties of veggies like red snow peas, rainbow carrots and miniature melons in the name of climate-proof food. We also talk about seed monopolies and sovereignty, open source seeds, permaculture pitfalls aaaaaand sad and depressed garlic with no sex drive.🧙♀️ LINKY POOSGregg’s seed shop ~ Useful SeedsGregg on InstagramGregg on FacebookThe Open Source Seed InitiativeThe Central Victorian Adaptive Crop Breeding Group on FacebookGoing to Seed ~ International Community of Adaptive Crop Breeding📕 READCarol Deppe ~ Breed Your Own Vegetable VarietiesJoseph Lofthouse ~ Landrace Gardening[free eBook] Raoul A Robinson ~ Return to ResistanceNoel Kingsbury ~ HybridCONTACTSend Gregg an email ~ gregg.muller@gmail.com🧡🧡🧡 Support Reskillience on Patreon 🧡🧡🧡

Mar 23, 2025 • 58min
What if It's Not Dystopia? With Permaculture Elder Linda Woodrow
It’s Permaculture Week, friends and phascogales! And what better way to celebrate than a big old heart to heart with permie elder Linda Woodrow. Linda is the author of 470, The Permaculture Home Garden, and the Witches Kitchen blog which is now in its 17th year. She is humble and extraordinary, and I think you’ll dig what she has to say about finding our niches, neighbours, purpose and freedom in the throes of collapse.🧙♀️LINKY POOSLinda Woodrow’s home on the webLinda Woodrow’s blog The Witches Kitchen470 ~ Linda WoodrowThe Permaculture Home Garden ~ Linda WoodrowPermaculture: A Designer’s Manual ~ Bill MollisonRetroSuburbia ~ David HolmgrenPermaculture One ~ Bill Mollison & David HolmgrenDonut Economics ~ Kate Raworth***Show Reskillience some love on Patreon***

Mar 9, 2025 • 1h 3min
The Health Episode // Sensitivity As Resilience with Anthia Koullouros
A story about a free bottle of French perfume and whether sensitivity makes us more or less resilient. With esteemed and ever-so-lucid naturopath, herbalist & author Anthia Koullouros of Apothēca Organic Teas & Apothecary.* What’s making us all so sick?* How to untangle complex & confounding health crises* Polyvagal theory & nervous system truths* Practitioner perspectives: holding space for uncertainty* What a regulated nervous system isn’t* Resisting business growth & hustle cultureLINKY POOS 🧙♀️Anthia’s home on the webAnthia’s Autumn reset [Starts March 17!]Anthia on InstagramAnthia on SubstackWhat is polyvagal theory?🧡🧡🧡 Support Reskillience on Patreon 🧡🧡🧡

Mar 2, 2025 • 1h 6min
Slow Textile Revival with the makers of The Nettle Dress
One of today’s guests spent seven years spinning a dress from stinging nettles and the other spent five years documenting the process. The result was the incredibly moving documentary The Nettle Dress — which I have now seen twice — co-created by Dylan Howitt and Allan Brown. It’s a love letter to old skills, hand crafts and everything that cannot be hurried; to fibersheds, foraged threads, gentle stories, and the magic of following your heart.Dylan Howitt is a BAFTA nominated filmmaker whose roll call includes BBC, Netflix and Discovery. Allan Brown is a textile artist and subject of the film whose steady commitment to disrupting consumer culture is contagious.It’s hard to sing The Nettle Dress’s praises highly enough without shattering a window, but I truly hope you’re moved to watch it after this conversation, perhaps with a posse of pals and a cauldron of nettle soup.🧙♀️ LINKY POOS ***Watch The Nettle Dress***The Nettle Dress’s home on the webThe Nettle Dress on InstagramShort film & group ~ Nettles for TextilesFlaxland UK**Support Reskillience on Patreon***