The Pros and Cons of Keeping Jeff on the Board

There was a list of like 20 failure m&a deals things that were like messy it just said it and the thing that I got from it was like he never cracked under pressure it just like sustainability every day kind of came in there was times where he ended meetings abruptly or like Katavane in his head pop up. He had leverage out of everything that he did probably better than any other founder entrepreneur but what he had to do with all of the e-commerce like all the stores yeah. There are stories of great businesses that started in a downturn that thing is like you're starting a business whatever right it's like these more these learnings these cultural the cultural impact of a downturn on