I wanted to show my son that there are places on this planet when people don't speak English as a primary language and it's not just English speaking world that observes the third world. Europe is different to Latin America and specifically Chile we liked it very much, he says. I got bored in Poland which is maybe what you're trying to do now with your ancestral roots or something like that. It takes five or ten years for you to learn like the culture of a place so where'd you go after New Zealand? He was going to travel but then COVID started and it killed the whole vibe they basically spent five months in an Airbnb apartment in a lockdown.