Moral Principles Being Self-Evident

When presented to rational beings who are thinking calmly and clearly they will agree with it. So I think it's possible that the most basic axioms of morality for within that within that category then of course working out more specific implications of them. If something is self-evident that seems to imply that we can be certain about it and how if pleasure is good, underneath that you can put pleasure is good. They kind of in in the same category of kind of certainty just just self-evidency then I quite in the samecategory of certainty but they're reached by the same process as a person has an empathetic quality.