I guess, like recently, i wouldn't say i've become like, sceptical of the principle. I guess i've just been become a little bit like, i guess, less enthralled with its position in this hole, like dogma. Because, um, if you just look at a lot of body builders who are at the top, a lot of them don't apply progressive overload. They go in and use muscle confusion and get fantastic results. M, so i would potentially argue, just based on that basis, that maybe progressive overload isn't required for hypertrophy, but it justke accentuates progress, if that makes sense. A, or would you say it? Maybe these people who are using musso confusion do, in fact, have some form of progression in place, they just don't realize it. Em,

i think the latter, i think they have progression without realizing it. A buti i have no clear date on it. Don't have clear empirical evidence either, but i can assume, if you just always like, what we do know is that different exercises stimulate different types of muscle fibre. So the the er, well, i'm not talking here about type oner, type two muscle fibres, but more he the just the angle. Howe on line, we always callit this muscle. This exercise hits this muscle from this angle. So the betterin of recruitments is different. So i can imagine that if you wek on, all you do wis bench. Then the second week, you do a flies for example, that you overload, essentially other fibres, a well, you more or less maintain the training stimulus, like it's so obviously a weaker stimulus for the other fibres, but it's enough to not go down. And then a third week, you do a well pressed, for example, and then you go back to your bench. But so the people who do mustle confusion, so to say, that they don't drack their workouts. So they because they don't really care about that, right? So that they are more about like a y the mind, musso connection. So they might not real that over a year, their bench has still increased. So i think te power lifters, for example, they always trag their work out so that they know whether or not something is working. A well, more body builders, they don't focus on it. But my my god, that they are progressing overtime as otherwise, it seems weird to me that if you, if you would continue to switch round variables, and then five years later, tou come back to your bench and you still livt, you can still bench the same time, the same as what you did the first time e you ever benched, like evolutionary. That makes no sense, right? You've got all this muscle mass, and you still cannot really, you're still not adapted to anythingo, my guesses there is, there is progressive ovel

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