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Why We Should Stop Defining Design as Problem Solving
I've long admired about your approach to the practice is that you you do this as a consultant. I only see it as though you have this kind of like this parallel kind of related life around furthering the practice from kind of an academic perspective. You're prolific in writing about these issues and speaking about them very thoughtfully and deeply. One of the things that that prompted this conversation we're having is a chapter that came out in a book called after the Bauhaus before the internet a history of graphic design pedagogy. It's called why we should stop describing design as problem solving now let's hoping we talk a little bit about that.