How publishers get paid in an AI world

As the year wraps up, we’re taking a pause from weekly interviews to share a curated Best of the Year in AI.

This special episode of The Media Copilot is a look back at the conversations that defined the past year...the questions, tensions, and turning points shaping how media, journalism, and technology intersect right now.

Over the past year, Pete has spoken with some of the sharpest minds working at the center of AI, publishing, and platform design. And while the tools keep evolving, the same core questions kept resurfacing:

How should creators and publishers be compensated in an AI-driven world?
Where does transparency end and exploitation begin?
Who actually controls the future of information, and who should?

In this Best Of episode, you’ll hear standout moments from those conversations, including:

 • How publishers are navigating AI licensing, attribution, and revenue
 • Why the rise of AI agents and scraping tools is forcing a rethink of digital rights
 • The growing tension between innovation and consent
 • What ethical AI actually looks like in practice, not theory
 • Why human judgment, context, and trust still matter more than ever

From conversations with leaders at ProRata, Cloudflare, Taboola, Factiva, and more, this episode captures the real debates happening behind the scenes — beyond the headlines and hype.

🎙️ Featured Voices 

• Bill Gross – Founder & CEO, ProRata
• Annelies Jansen – Chief Business Officer, ProRata
• Mark Howard – Chief Operating Officer, Time (formerly Time Inc.)
• Adam Singolda – CEO, Taboola
• Toshit Panigrahi – CEO & Co-Founder, Tolbit
• Aurélie Guerrieri – Chief Marketing & Alliances Officer, Cloudflare
• Stephanie Cohen – Chief Strategy Officer, Cloudflare
• Mark Riley – Founder & CEO, Mathison AI
• Traci Mabrey – General Manager, Factiva
• Trip Adler – Founder & CEO, Created by Humans

If you care about the future of media, the economics of creativity, or how AI is reshaping who gets paid and who gets left behind, this one’s for you.

🎧 Listen now to The Media Copilot: Best of 2025 — and stay tuned for what’s next.

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Produced by Pete Pachal and Executive Producer Michele Musso
Edited by the Musso Media Team 

Music: “Favorite” by Alexander Nakarada, licensed under CC BY 4.0

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