There's some part of myself that chose that as the fastest path to help. Just something you can live life preemptively figuring it out and then living perfectly. I'm of the camp that I don't think the cure for addiction is sobriety. I think the cure for addiction is community. Hey,

what's up, everyone? It's Andrew DeMani with Permission to Shine. Welcome back to another incredible episode. We've got Cy Wakeman. She is a drama researcher. She's a keynote speaker. She was just inducted into the Speaker Hall of Fame. So she's going to tell us in the power of storytelling and give us tips on how to tell better stories. She's going to give advice for public speaking. And she's going to talk a lot about how we create these narratives in our head, and we end up wasting so much time. Like, think about it. At work or in a romantic relationship, how much time you spent telling yourself a story that actually wasn't true when you go and seek the facts or when you begin to question those thoughts. So she's going to give us some really tangible advice. We actually grew up in Sioux City, Iowa together. So this was a super fun full circle moment for me. She's moved to Mexico, which you'll get to learn about because of an amazing life that she has built for herself. So please enjoy this conversation. If you enjoy it, pass it on to somebody that you love. And as always, I really enjoy hearing from you guys. to reach out to me is Andrew at permission to shine.org and you can find us across all social platforms, YouTube, LinkedIn, Instagram, Spotify and Apple Podcast. Let's dive in to this insightful conversation with the wonderful author, speaker and leader, Cy Wakeman. We're just inducted into the Speaker Hall of Fame.