There's this sort of threshold where people talk about 5% of liver cells containing abnormal amounts of fat. So I'm interested in hearing from you on, is there a tipping point where you have too much liver fat and does someone need to go and do a sort of liver ultrasound or can they get enough idea by looking at things like fasting glucose and HBA1C, triglycerides, et cetera. Simon Tisdall: First off, you can kind of assess the level of fat by ultrasound as you just, I think you were suggesting. You know, if you do think if your liver function tests are elevated on a blood test, having an ultrasound done if you're liver

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