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Claire Hughes Johnson (Google, Stripe) discusses her new book Scaling People: Tactics for Management and Company Building. Claire talks about why she thinks vulnerability is so powerful, the pitfalls of transparency in leadership, how to build systems by building trust, and the difference between management and leadership.
LINKS & MENTIONS FROM THIS EPISODE
“Scaling People” by Claire Hughes Johnson https://press.stripe.com/scaling-people
Read “The Messy Marketplace” by Brent Beshore https://www.amazon.com/Messy-Marketplace-Selling-Business-Imperfect/dp/0998030007/ref=sr_1_1?crid=188DH4FFMN8IX&keywords=messy+marketplace&qid=1682524629&sprefix=messy+mark%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-1
Listen to “The Messy Marketplace” (episode 1 of the Permanent Podcast feed) https://www.permanentequity.com/themessymarketplacepodcast/introduction-a-note-from-the-author
Claire mentions “Bury My Heart at Conference Room B” by Stan Slap https://www.amazon.com/Bury-Heart-Conference-Room-Unbeatable/dp/1591843243/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1682524772&sr=8-1
David mentions “Raising Emotionally Strong Boys” by David Thomas https://www.amazon.com/Raising-Emotionally-Strong-David-Thomas/dp/0764240714/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1682524959&sr=8-1
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CONNECT
Claire on twitter https://twitter.com/chughesjohnson
Claire on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/claire-hughes-johnson-7058/
Brent on twitter https:/https://twitter.com/BrentBeshore
Brent on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/brentbeshore
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro & Who Is Claire?
2:08 “This One Scales to 11”
4:08 Why Write “Scaling People?”
13:08 One of Claire’s Most Pivotal Moments as a Manager
22:12 Transparency: Virtue or Vice?
28:22 The Challenges of Managing PEOPLE
36:38 The Power of Being Vulnerable
46:42 Why Dachshunds Are the Funniest Dogs
51:26 How Have Your Motivations Changed Over Time?
55:36 The Difference Between a Strong Manager and a True Leader
57:55 Why a Business Stays Small
1:06:35 How to Build Kindness Into Company Culture
1:10:45 Who Would You Send This Podcast To?
1:11:52 Legal Disclaimer
EPISODE CREDITS
Produced by David Cover
Additional editing & mastering by Ryan Lipman
Intro music by David Cover, Andy Freeman, Rhett Johnson, & Andrew Luley
Outro music by Jees Guy
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