From Attorney to Pastor: Joe's Journey

The Telepathy Tapes took the podcast world by storm in 2024. All of a sudden, we had falsifiable evidence that non-speaking autistic people could read minds. But this phenomenon was only the tip of a massive iceberg. What the Telepathy Tapes refused to publicize was the fact that these individuals relate messages from the God of Israel and from Jesus himself, expressions of unfathomable love, calls to repentance and reminders that Jesus is coming quickly. Our guest, Pastor Joe Infranco, exercised the intellectual rigor he learned in his first career as an attorney to get to the bottom of this phenomenon.

👉 Key Discussion Points:

► Biblical Gifts vs. "Telepathy": While some secular observers label the ability to know others' thoughts as "telepathy," Joe Infranco frames this phenomenon within the context of 1 Corinthians 12 spiritual gifts, such as "prophetic insight" or a "word of knowledge." He notes that many of these individuals are highly empathetic and "pick up thoughts" or see spiritual colors around people rather than experiencing literal, radio-like mind reading.

► A Rigorous Testing of the Supernatural: As a former attorney, Infranco uses a "preponderance of the evidence" legal standard to validate supernatural claims. He argues that instead of demanding absolute certainty, believers should weigh evidence. Does the message provided line up biblically? Do the speakers have any motivation to lie? With objections and evidence on a scale which side is more persuasive?

► God’s Use of "Overlooked Instruments": A central theme of the episode is that God may be choosing "heretofore overlooked instruments" to communicate ancient truths to the modern world. Infranco shares that many non-speaking individuals report seeing into the spiritual realm—including angels, demons, and Jesus—and feel a divine mandate to share messages of love and calls to repentance with a world that has often ignored them.

🔖 Chapters

00:00 From Attorney to Pastor: A Journey of Faith

03:55 The Phenomenon of Telepathy and Spiritual Gifts

08:28 Skepticism and Validation: The Journey of Belief

14:13 Theological Concerns and Spiritual Discernment

24:12 Providing Biblical Perspectives to Spiritual Experiences

31:59 Beyond a Reasonable Doubt

34:59 Messages from the Spiritual Realm

38:35 Seeing the Future and Angels

41:59 The Nature of Heaven and Relationship with God

45:35 The Role of Autism in God's Plan

49:19 Jewish Concepts Revealed through Autistic

53:20 Signs of the Times: Prophetic Insights

57:29 God's Unique Strategies in Reaching People

01:00:34 Hope and the Future of Faith

👉 Resources:

Instagram: @pastorjoeinfranco

Hidden Gifts Ministry

Decoding Cody: Secrets of the Spectrum from People with Autism Who See, Hear, and Smell in the Unseen Realm 

The Telepathy Tapes

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