Speaker 2
The Never Split the Difference is Chris Voss. And I don't know if you've seen masterclass.com. Of Chris Voss. I've seen
Speaker 1
him. I've seen that. Yeah.
Speaker 2
So he has a masterclass now on there. And I just signed up for masterclass again recently. And it's, it's genius, the stuff that he goes on about in terms of negotiation strategies. And this guy came from being a, you know, a hostage negotiator, right? So it's like amazing stories, but in many ways you sort of realize, oh, actually, you know, the stakes on this kind of situation I'm in trying to negotiate is nothing compared to what, you know, this guy has sort of experienced. But really fascinating
Speaker 1
just hearing him talk about that stuff. Very good book. And in fact, I subscribe to that masterclass also. It's on Netflix or Amazon Prime. This was during COVID times and I subscribed for it. After reading the book again, I subscribe for the masterclass. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2
What's one attribute or characteristic in your mind of a successful founder?
Speaker 1
I think perseverance. Patience, perseverance, great resilience, tenacity. You need all of that, along with the capabilities of building a product.
Speaker 2
Yep, and you shared some good examples of perseverance with your story. What's your favorite personal productivity tool or habit i
Speaker 1
still keep it simple you know i'm i mean of course we we use a few tools out there but i'm still a notepad notepad person i have like five six items to deliver. I mean, I'll work in the night, just spend my 10 minutes to plan my next day, and I just go ahead and execute that plan. At the end of the day, your yearly targets, your quarterly targets, your monthly targets, they come down to how best you work on that particular day. So keeping things simple. Yeah, love it.
