The Vine Origins Group

M and i had the great, great pleasure of working with joe and and kevin and em. They started m i think dug pioneered it, but in the early two thousands, a group called the vine origins group. Ptriog no longer, unfortunately, no longer exists. I felt like a, i had come to new york to visit a friend, and had a really amazing week-end. And so i decided, i'm going ogo hear them out, cause i think they're not going tothe third time.