The Challenges of Predicting Future Behavior and the Role of Curiosity

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Episode Overview:

In this episode of The Breakout Growth Podcast, hosts Sean Ellis and Ethan Garr sit down with Teresa Torres, Product Discovery Coach at Product Talk and author of Continuous Discovery Habits. Teresa is a recognized leader in the product discovery space, helping product teams integrate continuous learning into their workflows to drive growth and innovation.

Teresa shares her thoughts on how teams can shift from being feature-focused to outcome-focused and why that matters. And she also explains how companies can build products that improve engagement and retention by keeping customer needs at the center of decision-making. With real-world examples and a clear framework for implementing continuous discovery, this episode is a must-listen for product leaders and growth professionals alike.

What You’ll Learn:

* The Power of Continuous Discovery: Teresa explains how embedding continuous discovery practices into your product development cycle helps teams stay aligned with customer needs and drive sustainable growth.

* Moving from Outputs to Outcomes: Learn why product teams should focus on the impact their products have, rather than simply delivering features, and how this mindset shift leads to better customer engagement.

* Balancing Business and Customer Value: Teresa dives deep into how product teams can create a balance between solving for customer problems while ensuring that business goals are met.

* Assumption Testing Over A/B Testing: Why testing assumptions early on is critical for reducing risks, saving time, and building products that truly resonate with customers.

* Building Continuous Discovery Habits: Practical advice on how teams can establish the right habits to continuously learn from their customers, and how these habits fuel innovation.

* Cross-Functional Alignment: Teresa explains how continuous discovery can align teams across functions, helping everyone from product managers to engineers stay focused on delivering value.

Key Takeaways:

* "Discovery is about continuously learning and adjusting, not waiting for the perfect idea." — Teresa Torres

* "The shift from outputs to outcomes is critical for driving real value for customers and businesses." — Teresa Torres

* "Your assumptions are the riskiest parts of your product—test them before you build anything." — Teresa Torres

Timestamps:

* [00:00] – Intro: Sean and Ethan introduce Teresa Torres and her background in product discovery.

* [06:00] – The importance of continuous discovery and how it fuels engagement and retention.

* [12:30] – Moving from outputs to outcomes: How product teams can stay focused on the right goals.

* [20:45] – Testing assumptions early to avoid building the wrong product.

* [30:15] – How to build habits that support continuous discovery within teams.

* [38:20] – Aligning cross-functional teams around continuous discovery and customer value.

Why Listen:

If you're a product leader, startup founder, or growth professional looking to improve customer engagement and retention, this episode with Teresa Torres offers invaluable insights on how to integrate continuous discovery into your organization. Teresa’s practical advice on testing assumptions, focusing on outcomes, and building customer-centric teams will help you unlock innovation and drive long-term growth.

Links & Resources:

* Learn more about Teresa’s work and continuous discovery at Product Talk and Product Talk Academy. 

* Here’s a great article by Teresa to help you get started with her work

* Follow Teresa Torres on LinkedIn – Connect here

* Here’s the article that Sean wrote on Why Curiosity is Key to Growth Success

* Subscribe to The Breakout Growth Podcast – Subscribe here

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