#32: Subtle Art of Not Giving a F$%#
Vinh and Ali Show
IVF - A Revolution in the Business World
I remember when we were trying to have kids, right? We eventually ended up going through the process of doing IVF and that's how we had our two boys. And I think that was one that had that mixture of it because there was lots of like times where I think both of us were like, oh man, this is a really shitty problem that we have to solve," he said. "Then obviously luckily enough ended up with our first child Marcel"
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