I think about embodied mind. What I really hope to do is to gain enough of an understanding of the embodied intelligence of the organs and tissues such that we can achieve a radically different regenerative medicine. And then sort of like what you said all of this drives a reconsideration of how we formulate ethical norms. Someday we can try to build a system of ethical norms that does not rely on these completely contingent facts of our earthly history but on something much more deeper which takes agency and the capacity to suffer seriously.

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