GM68: Chief Strategist: “Most Scenerios Point to Recession” ft. Peter Berezin
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Navigating Economic Challenges in Real Estate
This chapter explores the distress in commercial real estate, focusing on rising delinquency and vacancy rates, and their impact on regional banks. It also examines broader economic imbalances and the implications of recent fiscal policies on future economic stability.
Peter Berezin Chief Strategist and Research Director at BCA Research returns in this episode to discuss with Alan Dunne why he believes the US economy will soon enter recession and the S&P 500 will fall as low as 3750. Peter highlights the leading indicators in the housing market, labour market and in manufacturing that suggest to him that the economy is on a weakening trend and why he expects the unemployment rate to rise from here. They discuss current equity valuations, the Mag 7 and why investors may be overly optimistic on AI - Peter believes his base case of a fall in the S&P 500 to 3750 might be optimistic given the elevated level of profit margins. They also delve into what a Fed easing cycle will look like in the next downturn, Peter’s call for 3% 10 year yields in the US and the implications for fixed income, the US dollar and commodities.
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Episode TimeStamps:
02:19 - What has changed since our last conversation?
07:29 - Signs of weakness?
09:31 - The key indicators of weakness
12:15 - Are we actually becoming more wealthy?
15:26 - Assessing the savings rate
17:02 - Berezin's model for analyzing the economy
20:04 - Is the lag kicking in now?
22:00 - Challenges in the banking system
24:37 - Are we seeing a tail wind from fiscal support?
27:11 - Why Berezin thinks the stock market is 50% overvalued
29:26 - Are AI companies in trouble?
35:51 - The long term economic impacts of AI
37:46 - Boosts in inventories: A tipping point to the economy?
40:17 - Berezin's outlook for Fed policy
42:47 - Rate cuts = recession?
45:42 - The state and outlook of the U.S housing market
47:25 - An unsustainable budget outlook
50:44 - Will we see a strengthening of the dollar?
52:19 - An upside for the yen
53:53 - A collective cutting of rates
55:06 - Has globalization run its course?
56:40 - The structural outlook for commodities
58:51 - What should you focus on?
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