I love, i i'm in a really good place right now where the engineering team like, they really, we've proven the value of design. And that sometimes maybe one of the reasons why there is so much conflict with designers and engineers,. Its because maybe we designers haven't proven yet the value ofdesign. So thankfully, we've been able to do thand i give a lot of credit to my manager. Thire's mutual respect. You want respect and you give respectit's neat. The best things that i've found, the best solutions that ive found, come from me spending time with engineers and p ms.

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