David Perry: I really just wanted to understand, how do people change their minds? How do we go from being a nation that was so anti-Samsex marriage to being pro-Samsex. He says the elaboration likelihood model is one of the great things he found. The other ones were street epistemology and smart politics and deep canvassing. And all of these groups are also very similar to motivational interviewing. It's like when you know your room is a mess but your mom says you need to clean up your room and so you don't. Just because your mom told you to.

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