The Importance of Committing to Yourself in the Gym

"I was such a casual climber for the first, you know, seven years I was climbing and on and off that I think like I never showed up to the gym really with a plan," he says. "So just in the past couple of years, this is like come to my attention like, okay, if you actually want to be a climber ... You have to set aside time for it and commit to it." He adds: "You probably don't get as much personal work done when you're doing that"