What if the whole story of the Bible could be told through four mountains?

In this conversation, Mike speaks with theologian and pastor Michael Niebauer about his new book, Four Mountains: Encountering God in the Bible from Eden to Zion. They explore how the geography of Eden, Sinai, Tabor, and Zion can guide readers toward a deeper understanding of Scripture—and a more faithful approach to preaching it.

Michael reflects on his own development as a preacher, the discipline of lectionary-based sermons, and the formative role of repetition, feedback, and theological tradition. He outlines how early Christian exegesis, especially the writings of figures like Ephrem the Syrian, shaped his thinking and helped him connect the Old and New Testaments with fresh clarity.

Other highlights include:

Why Eden was probably a mountain
How to preach biblical symbolism without confusing your listeners
The Bible as unapologetically Trinitarian
Balancing historical context with spiritual reading
Ministry to the elderly through Heritage Mission
And why every sermon should lead to love of God and neighbour

Whether you're a seasoned preacher or simply looking for new ways to read the Bible, this episode offers theological insight and practical encouragement.

Michael Niebauer is an Anglican Pastor and Director of Heritage Mission, an initiative that trains leaders to start worship services in care facilities. He is the author of Four Mountains: Encountering God in the Bible from Eden to Zion and Virtuous Persuasion, a Christianity Today Book Award finalist and Outreach Magazine’s 2022 Missional Resource of the Year.

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You can purchase Michael's book Four Mountains: Encountering God in the Bible from Eden to Zion here: https://lexhampress.com/expositors

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