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There's still a lot of concern about the east india trades, draining europe of gold and silver at a time of commodity money. As the ships get bigger and bigger, it makes more and more sense to go by sea. I mean, it's more likely that yo're goig to get the carriage trade a bit like the cargo ships of to day. You can take an awful lot by sea. And so there's that. What the overland trade? The overland trade the silk road and so on. It's not commensuratey t those routes, because the it's, there's only so much you can take on poor roads, really. So certainly,
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