I Think Pastors Do Need to Step Out of the Pulpit a Little Bit More

Vayner Blumen: I hope weary pastors out there take this to heart. When we are actually operating out of a place of rest, whether it's leading our organization or preaching, we're going to have more fruitfulness as a result," he says. Ulyssa: Thank you for your time and may the Lord continue to bless your work.