Is There a Difference Between Product and Design?

I like the cultural challenges because I feel like that's the first step to then making a great product. So I kind of saw products that I wouldn't want to share with my family and friends, so to speak. Both Airbnb and Apple were probably a little bit boxed in and I was like, what do you want me to do? That's just like doing beautiful design. I'm like, you got it. You've already got it."