Seed Founders, You Know, I'm a First Time Founder, You're Not Putting Your Head Down and Building

I work mostly with the, with the seed founders, the earlier stage people. I have relationships with the people ops leaders, because that's what I get before I joined BC. The biggest thing I would say is, like, from a DNA perspective, we are looking for people who can execute. And if you don't have those two things, which honestly, if you're pulling in executives from large, large companies, they no longer,. They haven't touched the actual execution on the ground where they've had teams doing those things.