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Things Don’t Change Until You Change Them (with Maddy Ellberger)
The World's First Podcast with Erin & Sara Foster
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Eren Sarah talks to Dr. Maddie Elberger, who is a DBT therapist for the last eight years and also a professor at Columbia University. "I'm going to really try to be less jealous of you," Eren says on this week's episode of her podcast. 'It's going to be hard,' she admits as she tries to get over jealousy. "'You can use it for so many things in your life that are relatable' -- what do you think?"
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