I think about what activities are meditative these are things that they're not hard but allow you to turn off the worrying side of and turn off your thinking brain by getting into a state of flow. So for me that can be engaging with animals so there is this famous retreat center, the Miraval I don't know if you've heard of them franchise they have their famous factory horse meditation. My wife did it they charge like $800 really expensive for horse meditation but basically what you do is you just kind of do eye gazing with a horse. And my wife did it and she said actually it was really cool because your eye gazing you're staring into a horse's eyes but you kind of

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