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011: Persistence In The Face of Failure with Lori Harder

Midlife Conversations with Natalie Jill

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How to Protect Your Morning Routine

"I used to be so bad with time. I always think now, and this is huge for me because I am a person who is so bad," she said. "How much of your life is spent responding rather than creating?" he asked her. She replied: "The phone does not control my timing."

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