The Loss of Independence

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I think violent is a good word. We all went through that loss of independence in a lockdown that felt so violent, actually. Even though we were submitting to it willingly. Yeah. And so many different griefs at once, you know, not just one grief, but the loss of a friend, the loss of like a home and a, youknow, the whole vision that comes with a house. But I learned the motions of it in order to stay afloat. It's a lot of loss in one go.

Welcome to the Wintering Sessions with Katherine May.

This week Katherine chats to Gemma Cairney, presenter, curator of greatness and author of ‘Open: A Toolkit...’ and more.

There's a strong chance you're familiar with Gemma through her prolific radio and broadcast career, but if not - as you've surely come to notice over the Wintering podcast - you're about to meet another new best friend. Gemma's been grinding and hustling since the early days of her media work which kicked off at the BBC, and Katherine checks in with her at a point in her life where so many of the experiences along the way are truly forming some epic life chapters which have to be heard. What you'll hear in this episode is a spirit of turning lemons not only into lemonade, but an amazing lemon salad dressing as well as some incredible lemon jewellery too. From a whirlwind which synchronised around the time of the early days of the pandemic, this is a glorious and uplifting chat where we find Gemma at a reflective, wise and refreshed place. You'll enjoy it as a fan of Gemma or as a newly acquainted listener - and in either case, have a look at what she's been up to in case you've missed anything (including a ton of sea swimming of course). Wintering Sessions listeners, please enjoy!

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