David Perry: When you were creating the eating plan and helping folks in the studies or just patients in general understand what their kind of goals were here. Were there any specific targets where you were like, we want you to eat this much? He says it's more important to be more positive about the world rather than saying what you shouldn't eat. Perry: The patients themselves are very good at finding out what they like. And then when we look at the Dart history, with their Dart history, we can say, well, can you model this?

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