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What’s up, Rock Nation! Today we’re joined by Seth Godin - Bestselling author, marketing legend, and the mind behind 21 straight bestsellers that have shaped how the world thinks about business, branding, and connection.
In this episode, Seth breaks down why attention without trust is worthless, why your audience size doesn’t matter as much as the right audience, and the real definition of marketing (hint: it’s not hustle or hype). We dive into finding your “smallest viable audience,” building stories people want to spread, and why being remarkable isn’t about gimmicks - it’s about meaning.
Seth also shares the mindset shift that saved his career, how to stand out without selling out, and why consistency beats authenticity when it comes to building a personal brand. From the psychology behind buying decisions to the tension that makes people take action, this episode is a masterclass in creating work that matters.
If you’re ready to stop chasing clicks and start building something worth talking about, this one’s for you.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:59 - What makes people buy vs not
1:43 - Views vs influence
2:51 - Remarkable isn’t a gimmick
4:08 - Advertising vs. Marketing
5:31 - Marketing hasn’t changed
7:39 - You have to admit you’re not that good
10:44 - The power of speaking to our customers
12:17 - People are distracted by false proxies
15:55 - Motion Array
16:50 - Find 10 people that trust you
18:27 - Getting kicked out of the publishing industry
21:26 - Why Seth wrote The Purple Cow
24:15 - Marketing a Personal Brand vs. Tradition Brand
27:25 - Live Training
28:07 - Why tension is so important
29:47 - The smallest viable audience
31:08 - Navigating Dupes on Amazon
33:48 - What it takes to create a Purple Cow business
36:24 - How to implement a marketing strategy
38:18 - Learn to play the right game
40:14 - Authenticity is bullshit
46:28 - Post Pod Debrief
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