The Rise to Power of Ushabes

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Ug shabes was a sui generous figure in that sense, a little bit like silverdolus cone. And of the way in which he was transforming venezuela at the time was to do with specific history of a country. To day, it looks like ves too was a harbinger of broader developments to come. But how was that emulated and copied by oters? Not trum mediately. Because one of the characteristics that these leaders have is that they export their autocracy and they export their methods.

Moisés Naím is a Distinguished Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and a member of the Persuasion board of advisors. He has served as Minister of Trade and Industry for Venezuela, Executive Director of the World Bank, and editor-in-chief of Foreign Policy magazine. His latest book is The Revenge of Power.

In this week’s conversation, Moisés Naím and Yascha Mounk discuss how authoritarian powers have banded together to respond to the challenges of technology and decentralization, the proliferation of the “Three P’s” (polarization, populism, and post-truth), and the challenges facing democracies in the 21st century.

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