The podcast crew is chatting with Ethan, aka Toppsdown himself! He's the CEO and co-founder of Refold and spends 90% of his waking hours thinking, breathing, and working Refold. 

He's a long time experimenter and goal setter and has longs of wisdom to share with you about how to make the best of your desires and goals. Tune in to learn something new!

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