The AI moment, AI vs crypto: a heated debate with Amjad Masad, Flo Crivello, and Nathan Labenz
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"I was a little app that would allow me to help automate routine meeting scheduling," he says. "It's a work in progress still, but you know, it is working." He adds: "This is not just theoretical; this is now instantiated"
Amjad Masad (@Amasad), Flo Crivello (@Altimor) and Nathan Labenz (@Labenz) join us for a heated debate on the AI moment. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Preview of the debate
(00:30) Sponsor
(01:00) Nathan introducing our new upcoming AI podcast, The Cognitive Revolution
(03:45) Flo’s take on the AI moment and AGI
(08:20) Amjad’s take on the AI moment
(15:00) Is chatGPT a step function change?
(23:45) AI’s effect on coding
(34:40) Amjad believes AI is underhyped
(35:00) Bounties
(53:15) What AI companies should VCs invest in?
(57:30) Antonio/Flo pre-debate
(01:00:15) “All knowledge work will be automated in 20 years”
(01:01:00) Antonio’s AI skepticism
(01:05:20) the inflection point is a jump in generality
(01:06:00) Who will capture value, incumbents or startups?
(01:14:30) Segue into AI and crypto
(01:20:00) Flo’s crypto skepticism
(01:23:40) Antonio and Flo HEATED DEBATE
(01:26:30) Dan tries to calm everybody down
(01:27:00) Dan’s crypto perspective
(01:29:30) Antonio’s crypto perspective
(01:31:50) Amjad’s Bitcoin maximalist view
(01:34:55) Amjad’s hilarious rant on crypto ponzis
(01:38:00) Dan and Amjad debate Bitcoin/Ethereum
(01:40:00) AI vs Web 3 brawl
(01:52:32) Amjad’s AI predictions
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