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Kara Swisher
Design Matters with Debbie Millman
Desire, Aspiration, and Disillusionment
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Reflecting on their childhood aspirations, the podcast hosts discuss their desire to work in the CIA but how being gay prevented them from pursuing this career due to the bigotry of the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy. They also explore their feelings towards being in the closet and their anger towards those who caused harm during the AIDS crisis.
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