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Life Beyond the Clock with Jenny Odell

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The Cost of Not Loving Anything

I think people shut down not because they're lazy, but because it's too painful. And so I would rather be open and curious and responsive to like deep grief about the things that you're losing or the things you stand to lose. That also comes with a cost of being vulnerable in your own heart as well. So we have to recognize how challenging that is for us all.

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