How to Get FaceTime With a Senior Leader

In the early days of a company some and we've, we see this a lot is that you have a marketer who's maybe reporting into a sales leader or they are maybe someone has hired in a slightly more junior marketer. So when that person inevitably, and they're probably hopefully quite an ambitious marketer wants a bit of FaceTime with either the senior leadership team or the board. How would you suggest they go about getting that because I think we would definitely if we were in those situations be pushing for FaceTime so that we can give you that kind of oversight on what's actually happening.