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Introduction
The managing up show is a podcast about leading and managing in the world of technology. This week, travis wisgood talks to brandon hayes from austin, texas on one year anniversary of major winter storm that knocked out power grid there. Brandon: The difference between last year's experience and this year's is pain. And it got me to thinking about the role of pain in the life of our teams that we lead. We have a temptation to kind of work around pain, or to minimize it, or to make people not feel it. But sometimes doing that keeps us from encouraging the change that needs to happen on the team.