Outro

Elliott Abrams, senior fellow for Middle Eastern studies at the Council on Foreign Relations and U.S. Special Representative for Venezuela and Iran from 2019 to 2021, joins the show to discuss Venezuela and what might happen next.

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Times

02:04 Snatch and Grab

05:50 Intelligence Operations

12:04 Oil

16:50 Holding the Country Together 

24:16 Risks & Mistakes

30:48 Blockade

33:54 Hard To Leave   

39:11 Not Iraq

41:48 Cuba

42:21 The Iranian Regime

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