I think it's incredibly useful to be in dialogue and to have the time course of one's a feedback be shorter and shorter, right? When you're when you write a book, it takes you a year or more to write it. It then sits with your publisher for 11 months or so. Then it goes out into the world. The time course of correction and you know, fertilization of of you know, further conversation is so slow. I mean, writing or reading a book, I guess provides that. But there is something about talking to smart people and having them push back against your views in real time that is is something you can't really supply for yourself in the same way

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