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Conquering One of the Hardest Ultramarathons in the World, The Barkley Marathons, with John Kelly

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The Goldilocks Zone of Difficulty

"I just want to get back to this idea of determination. So a lot of that research I did for the PhD actually involved some game theory in getting people to learn how to use their brain computer interface," he says. "A big part of that is this sort of concept of the Goldilocks zone of difficulty, of giving people tasks and goals that are just out of reach." 'If you give someone something that's too hard, they're going to get frustrated or in the gaming world that they'll rage quit'

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