Shadi Hamid: I was somewhat relieved over the four years of Trump's tenure. Why? Because we had a vigorous media that was challenging Trump every step of the way, she says. She adds it tells us something about our two party system for all of its faults. "Democracy is seeing outcomes that you really don't like and coming to terms with that reality"
In part two of our debate 'Is America a force for good in the world?', foreign policy experts Shadi Hamid and Samuel Moyn discuss the return of Donald Trump, American exceptionalism, and what the world would look like if China became the world's only superpower. Our host for this debate is journalist and academic, Philippa Thomas.
This episode is part two of two, to find part one please scroll back on your feed to this week's Sunday Debate.
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