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The speakers discuss the importance of persistence and practice in becoming a champion, relating it to podcasting and personal growth. They also explore the guest's vulnerability and the pursuit of balance and happiness, ending with a cliffhanger about the guest's life-changing encounter in New York City.

Ken Rideout is one of the fastest runners over the age of 50 in the world. He won the 50-and-over division at the New York City Marathon (2:33:31) in 2021 and the Boston Marathon (2:30:21) in 2022 and he has come in second in that age division in London (2:29:54), Chicago (2:29:53), and Berlin (2:35:48). He also won the 2021 Myrtle Beach Marathon outright in 2:30:58 just before turning 50.

But in this conversation, we focused more on the real pain. How Ken went to trauma healing center, his struggles as a parent, physical pain vs. emotional pain, how to hit the next level emotionally and spiritually, and how to flip the switch to dominate.

0:00 Intro

2:30 On Fighting

7:15 Fighting Mental Demons

10:10 Advice Ken Wish He Got In His 20s

12:40 “I’ve Always Been Willing To Eat What Killed”

19:23 Secret Of Connecting

21:40 How To Flip Switch To Dominate

24:36 Ken Went To Trauma Healing Center

27:50 Ken’s Struggles As A Parent

34:51 Why Did Ken Go To Healing Center?

36:00 Physical Pain Vs. Emotional Pain

37:20 Ken Has The Coolest Friends