I don't think universities are that important, and I think they're conservative in that sense. They teach these same models, thinking that they've adapted. It's like these models were created like 50 years ago. Economics is really, really outdated. So it's like my mum was showing me some of her stuff. It's rational man, rational economic man, self-interest. It's very extraordinary. And I think you all agree with me on this jammer because we both do PPE. But to go back to the original question: Was an overrated person in your discipline? You'll be motivated by that. Yes. Thank you for your question.

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