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How Do You Deprogram?
"I don't like to bring up on Iran just because I do see what like how people roll their eyes essentially," he says. "If you make the ideas prevalent in the culture, if people start viewing self interest as something that's kind of interesting and worthwhile ... then I think I think we'll deprogram them." He adds: "It takes time. And ultimately, I don't think the culture will have this response to her"