Lex Fridman Podcast #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy
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Apr 24, 2021 
Michael Malice, an anarchist and political thinker, joins Yaron Brook, an Objectivist philosopher and chairman of the Ayn Rand Institute, for a lively discussion. They dive into Ayn Rand's controversial views on self-interest and altruism, challenging societal norms around morality. The duo debates anarchy versus state governance, exploring the complexities of violence and authority. They also touch on education about historical atrocities and the transformative power of personal integrity. Expect sharp wit and engaging philosophical insights!
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Lord of the Flies Critique
- Michael Malice criticizes Lord of the Flies' sinister impact on culture, arguing its portrayal of human nature is inaccurate.
- He emphasizes that in survival situations, cooperation, not conflict, is the dominant human instinct.
Origin of Societal Problems
- Yaron Brook believes wrong ideas, often mystical explanations for existence, lead to societal problems.
- This allows individuals seeking control to exploit these explanations, creating an 'Attila and the witch doctor' dynamic.
Kant's Evil
- Ayn Rand considered Immanuel Kant the most evil man because he undermined reason and individualism.
- She believed his philosophy attacked the Enlightenment and the foundations of freedom.