Interview Setup: Introducing Phil Mattingly

With government funding negotiations at a standstill, Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller explore what may break the deadlock and how long this standoff could last. Then, Brendan and Annalyse welcome Phil Mattingly, CNN's Chief Domestic Correspondent, to the show for a discussion about OMB director Russ Vought’s influence, how the Trump administration is handling the shutdown, and if Congress will reassert its spending authority.

Hosts: Brendan Buck and Annalyse Keller

Guest: Phil Mattingly, CNN

Audio Producer: Benji Englander

Video Producer: Regina Anderson

Articles Discussed:

Politico: ‘I don't know why this is so complicated’: Shutdown could drag on for days

Reuters: Another deadline in US shutdown: Will troops get paychecks on October 15?

Politico: House will stay out of session next week as Senate works to solve shutdown

CNN: Trump’s shutdown architect: Russ Vought’s plan to deconstruct the government was years in the making